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Dating Diaries Roundtable
We grilled our Dating Diaries subjects about dating in general, dating in Washington, and dating difficulties. Read on for their thoughts and experiences.
According to a recent survey, Washington is one of the best areas in the country to be single. Is that true? What makes dating in DC great? What makes it difficult?
Mark Drapeau: The survey is not right. The numbers and analyses they use are far too simple. DC is a horrible city for singles. First, there are not 4.1 million people in DC—there are about 550,000, and half of them live in neighborhoods Zagat doesn’t go to. There are 4.1 million people in the greater DC area. Now, maybe that’s quibbling, but when many people live in clearly residential neighborhoods with no Metro and bus access, that’s not an urban metropolis anymore. One huge problem with DC is that many cool people live outside the city, where all the great restaurants and clubs are for singles. They live in Bethesda, Silver Spring, and Falls Church. They’re the bridge-and-tunnel crowd that ventures in once a week. So, we have a geographic distribution issue.
Second, there are 28.6 percent unmarried people. Okay, fine. But unfortunately, that number is so dominated by college students and just-out-of-college interns and first-jobbers. And in general, your average 23-year-old cheering for his or her college football team at a beer joint in Foggy Bottom doesn’t want to date anyone who’s older than 26. That’s fine, but that’s a reality. And frankly, lots of older people don’t want to date them, either. So we have an age distribution issue. Third, there are no locals and no local spirit and pride. Most people move to DC for careers. Everyone here is transient, and if you’re not, you probably live in one of the aforementioned suburbs.
Finally, because everyone here who’s young and single is here for a tough career (law, government, lobbying), everyone is busy and stressed. You hardly ever meet artists, writers, ice-cream-shop owners, or advertisers. There’s one main career niche in DC, and the local businesses revolve around it. There are no diners in DC. Why? Because no one is hanging out with coffee and a cigarette talking to his or her friends at 10:30 AM. When everyone is so busy, it’s less fun to get together and harder to make plans. So we have a timing issue. In sum, those are some basic, below-the-radar reasons that I think DC should be ranked far below many other cities.
Sally Colson Cline: I took a look at the survey, and I agree that DC is a great place to be single. I think there are a lot of single people here, there’s good nightlife, and it’s easy to get to (it’s just unfortunate that it shuts down so early). The transient state of DC makes for a lot of turnover in residents, so there are always new people to meet. The best thing about dating in DC is how much there is to do around here—creative dates and new places to meet people are easy to come by. The worst thing about dating DC is being cornered in a bar by someone who wants to tell you how important their job is.
Michael Amesquita: I find that the variety of options for dates is a huge plus. There’s an endless supply of festivals, shows, concerts, and sightseeing in and around town. Once you’ve met someone it’s relatively easy to find something going on that you’d both enjoy. But meeting people is difficult. I’ve found people are really standoffish. People stand in their groups and would rather not make new friends. If you want to meet people, it has to be done somewhere else besides at a club or bar—perhaps through a sports league, church, work, or through friends.
Kate Searby: I love how DC is full of young professionals who are interested in current events and passionate about making a positive difference in the world. This city is practically overflowing with ambitious and intelligent people who work hard and play hard. There’s never a shortage of fun things to do or places to meet new people. There’s an endless number of embassy parties, charity events, and political fundraisers taking place on any given night. There’s always good live music to be found at the Rock & Roll Hotel, 9:30 Club, or Black Cat every night. With so much going on, the hardest part is deciding which event to attend.
Lucas Wall: Dating in DC is a mixed bag. On the up side, there are a ton of young, single, professional gay men in this city who are generally well educated and worldly. Washington guys are also quite attractive compared to other cities I’ve been to—or maybe it’s just the fact that there are so many here that by numbers there seem to be more good-looking ones.
On the flip side, I’ve found it difficult to actually meet many of these guys for dates. I always seem to be the one taking the initiative to get a number or e-mail address, or give mine out. I can’t recall the last time someone actually pursued me and asked me on a date. I’m not sure why this is. Some guys are shy by nature and have self-esteem issues that prevent them from going out on a limb to express interest in someone. Others seem to be the stereotypical gay guy who isn’t looking for a relationship and is just happy hooking up online and hanging out with friends.
Dana Neill: I agree that DC can be one of the best areas to be single. It’s full of many different activities so there’s something for everyone. I’m frustrated with people who say they’re bored—I just don’t think that can be possible in this area. I think the hard part is actually meeting others. Maybe it’s just my age group—most of my friends are married, and I’m not hanging out in bars or clubs by myself.
Max Schwartz: I’d say that as a young male, DC is a great place for dating because it seems to me that (at least my demographic) has many more women than men in it. So at minimum I have the stats running in my direction. People here are from all over the country, and everyone came here for relatively similar reasons: politics, advocacy, NGOs, or law, which means that everyone at least has a general understanding of my dorky corner of the world. I’m not at some bar in New York trying to explain legal blogging to an apolitical theater student. And I’ve found that people here are much more outgoing and far less cliquey than in other places I’ve lived.
What are your thoughts on dating in DC? Leave them in the comments below!
It seems Sally, Michael, Kate, and Max all had the same "insight" that Mark had but looked at those things in a positive and opportunistic view point. Mark seems to be very negative and over thinking things. Perhaps he can learn from the others and do some self reflection to why he is single? I mean, you have to "own" your singleness and he seems to blame others for his singleness.
Posted by: New to DC, Nov 21, 2008 07:59:02 PM
Thanks for all the feedback, though really I’m not sure pretentious is an insult like you intend it to be. Look, they ask us questions, we answer them. As for meeting artists, sure, they’re out there in DC, but a lot harder to meet than in other places I’ve lived like NYC and LA. Not bitter! Just realistic.
Posted by: Mark Drapeau himself, Nov 17, 2008 08:11:27 PM
Sally has a nice smile. I bet she does do well dating. Smiles are sometimes hard to come by around here.
Posted by: CD, Nov 17, 2008 12:35:33 PM
I have to say that, while the frequency of image changing seems to indicate a healthy amount of self-involvement on the part of MD, I found his analysis to be insightful and intelligent, and more thought provoking than that of the other daters. Seriously, thanks for going into what is a perplexing statistic.
Posted by: Waiting for paragraph six, Nov 17, 2008 12:33:35 PM
Mark is definitely bitter. Maybe he should move to the cities that his statistical analysis prove are better for singles.
Posted by: Entertained but annoyed..., Nov 17, 2008 11:09:00 AM
my my, Mark is awfully well-trained in the art of the 5-paragraph essay.
Posted by: Mark you are the ARTISTE!, Nov 17, 2008 11:07:23 AM
Sally -- You are a delightful (and beautiful) breath of fresh air to Mark’s long-winded pretention and pre-hypertension.
PS. Mark, dropping Latin bombs is such a dick move.
Posted by: IN SUM, Nov 17, 2008 11:01:13 AM
Mark, bitter that the 23-yo’s aren’t into dating you?
Posted by: Mark fan <----- not me., Nov 17, 2008 10:49:44 AM
Mark, who are the "cool people"?
Posted by: I follow Mark on Twitter., Nov 17, 2008 10:45:45 AM
Mark, although I appreciate your argument and agree with you on most points, I also think you’re very pretentious
Posted by: not a Mark fan, Nov 17, 2008 10:41:37 AM
I love how Sally is positioned right below Mr. Mark, as if to imply that he *MIGHT* be the type to corner you in a bar to tell you how important his job is. Or am I reading too much into this...?
Posted by: Amanda, Nov 17, 2008 10:37:42 AM
mark, you might meet artists and writers and ice-cream shop owners if you didn’t hang out in places that require a tie.
there are plenty of artists in this city.
Posted by: bewbs, Nov 17, 2008 09:08:07 AM
I am 23 as of today and currently dating someone well over 26 (and loving it!). Guess I’m not your average 23 year old...
Posted by: LG, Nov 17, 2008 06:37:09 AM
Look how cute Max is!
Posted by: Me, Nov 16, 2008 05:08:48 PM
Sally is hot!
Posted by: I think, Nov 16, 2008 04:26:14 PM
I want to make sweaty monkey love to Mark and Lucas.
Posted by: Phil, Nov 14, 2008 02:19:29 PM
Now Kate is quite the beauty. Sally’s easy on the eyes as well. No wonder they’ve had such pleasant dating experiences in DC.
Posted by: Secret Admirer , Nov 14, 2008 02:11:04 PM
Is that so? What else do you think?
Posted by: To Phil, Nov 14, 2008 02:08:20 PM
I think Mark should ask out Lucas.
Posted by: Phil, Nov 14, 2008 01:57:53 PM
The lay out does look much better
Posted by: Yes, Nov 14, 2008 12:45:51 PM
As a suburbian AND just-out-of-college-(ian), I do think that dating stinks much more than all these optimistic people say. I lived in New York for a summer, and thought it was much less buttoned-down, artsy, and open for dating than DC. But maybe that’s because I was IN the city, and not out of it. Commuting anytime outside of work time is just not so fun.
Posted by: heart, Nov 14, 2008 12:07:48 PM
The layout looks BEAUTIFUL with each dater’s photograph beside their response. Nice work, Washingtonian!
Posted by: Looking good!, Nov 14, 2008 11:43:47 AM
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