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Komi, DC
Nava Thai Noodle & Grill, Wheaton
Honey Pig BBQ, Annandale
Palena Cafe, DC
China Jade, Derwood
Plaka Grill, Vienna
The Source and The Source Lounge, DC
Johnny's Half Shell, DC
Siroc, DC
Gom Ba Woo, Annandale
Ravi Kabob I and II, Arlington
Vidalia, DC
Irene's, Laurel
Four Sisters, Falls Church
Bar Pilar, DC
Sushi Sono, Columbia
Poste Brasserie, DC
La Caraquena, Falls Church
Oval Room, DC
Cantler's Riverside Inn, Annapolis
Rasika, DC
La Fondita, Hyattsville
Bistro Bis, DC
Sushi Taro, DC
J&G Steakhouse, DC

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HoneyPig in Gaithersburg?:

Todd,

I went to a relatively new restaurant in Gaithersburg, MD, Dolsa Korean BBQ . The portions here are tiny (prices are modest though) compare to other Korean restaurants but the food and affordable prices remind me of Honey Pig, except the decor is so old and still the old Tokyo Lighthouse (think Benihana's) that it replaced.

Is this the same owner as Honey Pig? If it is, can you please tell them to change the decor?



Todd Kliman:

I don't know if it is or isn't, but I'd be surprised if it is.

It's interesting -- Honey Pig has gotten a lot of attention, and good attention, but there are a lot of other good Korean spots in Koreatown in Annandale. Gom Ba Woo, Vit Goel (Lighthouse Tofu), Shilla Bakery, Oegadjib, Il Mee, etc.

Fairfax, VA:

With fall in full force, where can I get some butternut squash soup? I'm craving it!

Todd Kliman: I haven't seen one yet. Who's got a butternut squash sighting?

Ballston, VA:

My girlfriend is coming into town for some classes related to her job in the Army. Can you recommend some upscale restaurants in the Tyson's Corner area where she will be staying. She jsut returened from afghanistan. TIA

Todd Kliman:

The best of the upscale places in Tyson's is Inox, and not by a little but by a lot.

That'd be my first, second and third choice.

Beyond that you have the big steakhouses that are in and around the area -- Fleming's, Shula's, Morton's, Capital Grille -- and some small chains, like Monterrey Bay Fish Grotto.

Washington, DC:

There was a butternut squash soup on the menu at Jaleo (Bethesda) this weekend...it was a special. I didn't have it so can't comment on whether it was good or not.

Todd Kliman:

Huh. Surprising.

Where else ... ?

Washington, DC:

Todd: What's the best way to order at Sushi Taro if I'm sitting at the sushi counter? I've heard different things (focus on sushi, don't focus on sushi) and need your advice. Thanks!

Todd Kliman:

Sushi.

I've had some good things at Sushi Taro that didn't involve fish -- in fact, some very good things. But also some merely okay things. Whereas the fish has pretty much without fail been outstanding across the board, sushi, sashimi, maki, etc.

DC:

I'll be in the Tenleytown / Friendship Heights area tonight. Where should I eat!?!?

Todd Kliman:

If you're not trying to watch what you spend -- Sushi Ko II. Get the spot prawn sashimi, get the fried soft shell crab if they have it, and (if you have money to blow) order a bottle of the Shaps & Rocher-Sarazzin white Burgundy (about $50).

For something cheaper, but more workaday -- Yosaku, also on Wisconsin.

Wheaton, MD:

Hi Todd,

I live in Wheaton and on a walk to Royal Mile we passed the old Hollywood East space. There was a sign for Pashion [sic] Restaurant and Lounge, taking up 3-4 storefronts. Do you know what this is going to be and/or who is behind it? Thanks!



Todd Kliman:

From what I understand, it's going to be a club/lounge kinda place, with an emphasis on drinking and dancing, not food.

Meantime, I just got word from the Hollywood East Cafe camp that the har gao and steamed pork buns will be returning in about five weeks -- an early-November return, in other words, for the area's best dim sum.  

WDC:

Hey Todd,

Have you been to Toscana Cafe? It's a newish spot on the Capitol Hill NE, just north and east of Union Station.

The chef worked under Roberto Donna for a while and I think you might like it. We've only been once, but the food was quite good and they have a lovely patio. I'm not suggesting this is going to make the top 100, but that this is a very good neighborhood restaurant where someone who knows how to cook well is putting together delicious, hearty, well-priced pasta plates.

Anyway, given what I know of your likes, I thought you might enjoy it next time you have occassion to swing through the area, especially if you can do so while the weather remains nice. Cheers!



Todd Kliman:

I've been. 

My early take: Like it, don't love it.  

And when I say like it, don't love it, I'm talking about it within the context of what it's trying to be/do. 

It's funny, because so many restaurants aim higher than they ought to, and assemble long, involved menus that play against the strengths of their kitchens. But Toscana Cafe could actually risk a little more. I think it has what it takes to pull off something slightly more ambitious.

By the way, it's a perfect time of year to go and take advantage of the umbrella-topped tables and sit out and enjoy the night. 

Arlington, VA:

Here is a fun question.

I go with a few friends about every other month for a "fancy" dinner. We all have adventurous tastes and flexible budgets.

At this point we feel like we have all had the opportunity to try the new trendy places around DC- many more than once.

This month it is my turn to pick. I am thinking we go "old school" to a place that is well established but that none of us have been to in a long time. My first two thoughts were either Obelisk or Marcel's.

Any other suggestions?



Todd Kliman:

Good ones.

Also -- 1789, Bistro Bis, La Chaumiere.

Incidentally, a lot of you out there belong to dining clubs of some kind and I'd be interested in hearing more about your experiences around town.

Drop me an email -- tkliman@washingtonian.com -- and tell me about your group, who's in and how it works, how often you eat out and where, etc.; might make an interesting small piece for the magazine.

Arlington, VA:

A bunch of friends and I signed up for Roberto Donna's cooking classes given at his home. I was inititally really excited for it, but now I am kind of nervous. I have to admit to being a very non-adventurous eater. Do you know what types of menus he typically prepares?? What if we cook rabbit or something that I would not eat. I would not want to offend...any advice??

Todd Kliman:

I think the thing to do, is to let him know about anything that is off-limits with you -- and be specific, as opposed to saying you're not very adventurous. "I don't do rabbit; I don't do game, etc."

Worst thing that happens is, you like absolutely nothing the class cooks -- in which case Donna is forced to whip up something special, just for you. (How bad can that be?) 

More likely, though, you'll like the pastas and polentas and risottos, etc., and end up forgoing some other, more intense-tasting concoctions. 

You've got me wondering -- has anybody else out there taken a cooking class in the area? With a name or not? Where? How was it? Who was the teacher?

Arlingtongue:

Congratulations on being selected for inclusion in this year's edition of Holly Hughes' Best Food Writing anthology for your moving and well-written tribute to your late father. He would be, and no doubt is, very proud.

Todd Kliman:

What is it Mark Twain said? I can live two weeks on a compliment?

You made my fortnight, Arlingtongue. Thank you.

 

Arlington, Va:

I'm headed to Barcelona in a week and would love to have a list of must-do's and must-eats from you and your readers before I depart. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated!

Todd Kliman:

Readers?

I wish I could help you out -- my trip there two years ago got cancelled at the 11th hour. I still think about it from time to time ...

WDC:

That seems fair. It doesn't seem too ambitious and hopefully it will come to be more so with time, but it is nice that it doesn't try to be too much, offers generous servings, at reasonable neighborhood prices.

Perhaps they will risk a bit more once they've gotten comfortable and developed a steady business. In the meantime, it's a lovely patio and already the best spot within walking distance on this side of the Capitol. For some reason, NE Capitol Hill has lagged behind SE and NW of the Capitol in developing good restaurants.



Todd Kliman: I found myself nodding along with every sentence you wrote. Thanks for coming back on and following up.

McLean, VA:

Good morning Todd,

How about a good suggestion in Manhattan for a birthday celebration for two twenty somethings?

I would like something totally unique to what we could find here. I took your recommendation of Babbo but couldn't snag the reservations. Something around that price range would be preferred. Thanks!



Todd Kliman:

Here are some of the places I've enjoyed recently --

Momofuku Noodle Bar, Momofuku Ssam Bar, and Ko -- all by the same group. Fatty Crab. Telepan. I think if you could score a seat at any of these, you'd count yourself lucky.

New York City:

Hello I live in New York but travel to DC often, I am looking for a place to take clients for drinks and bar food rather than a full dinner. Where would you send me for the best cocktails and bar food in the area. Thank you

Todd Kliman:

I think Restaurant Eve and Vidalia belong right at the top of the list, particularly since they put so much thought into the food itself.

I wasn't crazy about the last meal I had, not long ago, at Taberna del Alabardero, but the bar remains a really good experience -- good wines by the glass, tasty tapas (including slices of jambon, cut right there in front of you from a gargantuan leg).

Also: Eat Bar, Central Michel Richard, PS 7's (which now claims the peripatetic barkeep Gina Chersevani) and Proof (which claims the equally peripatetic Adam Bernbach) and Bar Pilar.

Bar Pilar, by the way, continues to be confounding with its service -- which is some of the worst you'll find in the city; even when you're being tended to, you feel ignored -- but continues to turn out affordable, smartly conceived small plates with big, ramped-up flavors.

Go right now and get the thick-sliced garlic toast topped with a fried, runny egg and salmon roe. A brilliant dish. Eggs on egg. Ooze and more ooze. I'm still thinking about it, weeks later.

Arlington, VA:

I took a cooking class with the well known chef from Gun Club of Goldvein Bill. It was last winter we learned how to cook a venison loin with truffle infused mashed taters and sauted winter veggies.

We also learned how to make a proper SC seafood gumbo. We all learned how to get the roux to the proper color and cook the SC rice properely. They serve their gumbo with a special ingredient. They finish with a splash of moonshine and then light it off.

Venison was wild and just shot earlier in the week. The sommelier Steve then discussed wine pairings with various VA wines. The Gray Ghost Chardonnay was a perfect match for the gumbo. I am signed up for their Fall Cooking series of 6 Saturday classes.

BTW the cost for these classes is $3k. And there are over 40 names on the waiting list.



Todd Kliman:

Ah, yes, the mysterious and marvelous Gun Club of Goldvein.

What a gem! Is there a more extraordinary dining experience in the entire region? I don't think so. 

The exquisite way they fuse the old and the new, the gourmet and the redneck. Unparalleled. Moonshine in the gumbo! Who would have thought? Well, Bill, the chef, would have thought. Michel Richard, Jeff Buben, Johnny Monis -- pikers, all, next to the incomparable brilliance of the talented and committed Gun Club staff.

$3,000 for cooking classes?

A steal. If they charged, $10,000 it would STILL be a bargain ... 

Alexandria VA-Speaking of enjoying the night:

Hi Todd,

I thought I'd give a shout out to Buzz in Alexandria. The other night, I headed over there after dinner to enjoy dessert and a drink. Sitting outside on a patio chair with my dog at my feet, I enjoyed what I like to call "death by chocolate"- a chocolate cupcake and chocolate martini ( a delicious tall one at that). I think it's pretty neat that you can enjoy playing board games with your kids, surf the net, and enjoy cocktails along with sweet and savory treats all in the same place.

Thanks for the chats.



Todd Kliman:

Buzz is good that way.

I think it's time, now that we've seen places like Buzz and the versatile and tasty Cafe Assorti in Arlington, a coffeehouse/restaurant/lounge/snack bar, for someone enterprising to go a step or two beyond and marry the for-all-seasons aspect of these places with a full-service restaurant menu, preferably one written by a chef capable of doing some serious (but simple) cooking. 

Petworth, DC:

Todd -- did a cooking for one class at CulinAerie with Vera Foresman. Great. Made cooking approachable, taught us recipes easily done for one - or multiplied for more guests. wonderful experience -- I'll be going back, for sure...

Todd Kliman:

Sounds like a great class.

And I hope you're reading, Vera! 

Curious -- what was the cost? 

DC Hiller:

Todd, have you ever tried Bonchon chicken? It is Korean fried chicken and wildly addictive. Double fried, somewhat sweet with an incredibly crunchy skin and juicy, moist meat.

I go into cravings once or twice a month, and a regular group of my friends get together to feast on it. The spicy is also very good, with a nice long lingering heat. Not to mention you can get a deal if you buy a pitcher of beer along with some chicken.

It takes about 45 minutes to get your order, so we always order ahead. Lucky for us, one of our friends is Korean, and she generally takes care of everything.

Anyway, I was just wondering if you had tried it. If not, you might wanna think about it the next time you swing through Annandale. I don't make a habit of eating fried food, but this is on a level all its own.



Todd Kliman:

You nailed it with your description, DC Hiller.

And I'm craving a piece or two, now, myself. 

Barcelona Bound:

When we were in Barcelona we loved the plates at Pinotoxos (sp?) in the Market (look for the long line and the beloved owner).

Our favorite meal by far was Commerc 24. The cuttlefish was a must have there.

We also went to Cinc Sentis, which was good, but not near as good as Commerc 24.



Todd Kliman:

Really fresh cuttlefish can be a pretty great thing. You're making me miss my not-taken trip even more ... ; )

Thanks for coming out and tossing out a few suggestions.

dc:

Todd,

Rockwell reported yesterday that Eola (newest restaurant on P St, west of Dupont) is a "major player" and "needs to be taken very seriously". Have you been there? Know anything about it?



Todd Kliman: I'll say this: They have put together a very smart menu, one that neatly balances tradition and trend, one that shows imagination but remains focused, too. And they seem to have a very good grasp of the culinary moment -- a grasp that can be seen in nearly everything, from the decor to the mood to the wine list, etc. 

arlington va:

looking for a meal in arlington, falls church, or dc where 3 people can eat for less than 50 bucks. Anything new and different. I was thinking of cafe assorti in rosslyn, maybe meaza. Oohs and Aahs? Thai X-ing? I've got many ideas, but I'd like a can't miss ethnic spot ideally. (Frame of reference- my go-to's are Huong Viet, Rabieng, China Bistro, Ravi Kabob, Present, Peruvian Chicken places)

Todd Kliman:

I like your frame of refence. And Cafe Assorti and Meaza are both good choices.

But how about La Limena, in Rockville? Or La Caraquena, in Falls Church? Or Gom Ba Woo, in Annandale?

All are pretty much sure things in my book, and all will allow you to stay well within your budget.

Wherever you go, I'd love to hear how things turned out. Drop back in and drop us a quick note, will you? 

DC:

Where would you tell Bruni to eat tonight?

Todd Kliman:

Oh, that's right -- that's tonight. Politics and Prose.

Well, if he can get in, Komi ... Otherwise? Stay in the nabe and hit 2 Amys for some small plates and a glass of wine. 

Arlington, VA:

Hi Todd, I know you have probably answered this question before, but do you know of any good places in the DC/VA area to get good New Mexican food?

Todd Kliman:

New Mexican?

Only Anita's, which is spotty these days. Some good things, some not so good. 

Anita's when it first opened -- I think the original was in Vienna? -- was a wonderful place. Great New Mexican cooking. My father first took me there, and we returned often. I craved that food.

Then, expansion. And what was so good and personal began to change. I'll never forget pulling up to one of the Anita's restaurants and seeing a Rolls Royce in the owner's parking spot. 

Anyway, I had wanted to make the announcement earlier and forgot.

Anita Tellez, the founder, passed away recently, and Anita's will be hosting a memorial celebration on
her birthday November 18, 2009. Details to come at anitascorp.com

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    Todd talked about everything from his thoughts on wine bar Cork to great organic restaurants.

  78. Tuesday, April 1 at 11 AM

    Today, Todd talked about the best Italian in DC, his choice for great mussels (you might be surprised), and the spots you need to eat at to consider yourself a real Washington resident.

  79. Tuesday, March 25 at 11 AM

    Todd talked about everything from Russian restaurants to the area's best Thai spots to a Philly cheesesteak challenge in this week's chat.

  80. Tuesday, March 18 at 11 AM

    In this Tuesday's chat, Todd talks about Rockville's Niwano Hana, where to eat after you've run the Cherry Blossom 10-miler, and how to do a birthday dinner for 10 at Zengo.

  81. Tuesday, March 11 at 11 AM

    Ask food & wine editor Todd Kliman a question about Washington area cuisine and restaurant news.

  82. Tuesday, March 4 at 11 AM

    Todd returns from paternity leave to take your food and dining questions Tuesday at 11 AM.

  83. Tuesday, February 12 at 11 AM

    Todd Kliman discusses your dining questions and area restaurant news, including tidbits about Mio, a great place for eggs benedict, and an authentic Turkish restaurant in the area.

  84. Tuesday, February 5 at 11 AM

    Ask food & wine editor Todd Kliman a question about Washington area cuisine and restaurant news.

  85. Tuesday, January 29 at 11 AM

    Todd breaks big news: Gordon Ramsay may be coming to DC to take over Maestro.

  86. Tuesday, January 22 at 11 AM

    Ask food & wine editor Todd Kliman a question about Washington area cuisine and restaurant news.

  87. Tuesday, January 15 at 11 AM

    Ask food & wine editor Todd Kliman a question about Washington area cuisine and restaurant news.

  88. Tuesday, January 8 at 11 AM

    Todd's taking a break for the holidays. Submit your food and dining questions, and check back on Tuesday, January 8 at 11 AM.

  89. Tuesday, December 18 at 11 AM

    Ask food & wine editor Todd Kliman a question about Washington area cuisine and restaurant news.

  90. December 11, 2007 @ 11AM

    Ask food & wine editor Todd Kliman a question about Washington area cuisine and restaurant news.

  91. December 4, 2007 @ 11AM

    Ask food & wine editor Todd Kliman a question about Washington area cuisine and restaurant news.

  92. November 27, 2007 @ 11AM

    Ask food & wine editor Todd Kliman a question about Washington area cuisine and restaurant news.

  93. November 20, 2007 @ 11AM

    Ask food & wine editor Todd Kliman a question about Washington area cuisine and restaurant news.

  94. November 13, 2007 @ 11AM

    Ask food & wine editor Todd Kliman a question about Washington area cuisine and restaurant news.

  95. November 6, 2007 @ 11AM

    Ask food & wine editor Todd Kliman a question about Washington area cuisine and restaurant news.

  96. October 30, 2007 @ 11AM

    Ask food & wine editor Todd Kliman a question about Washington area cuisine and restaurant news.

  97. Gillian Clark: October 23, 2007 @ 11 AM

    Gillian Clark, chef/owner of DC's Colorado Kitchen and author of new memoir Out of the Frying Pan, will take your questions while Todd Kliman is on vacation.

  98. October 16, 2007 @ 11AM

    Our wine columnist, Dave McIntyre (a.k.a. the Wine Guy), answers your questions while dining editor Todd Kliman is on vacation.

  99. October 9, 2007 @ 11AM

    Raw fish-ologist and Dupont Circle resident Trevor Corson moonlights as a host of Kliman Online.

  100. October 2, 2007 @ 11AM

    Ask food & wine editor Todd Kliman a question about Washington area cuisine and restaurant news.

  101. September 25, 2007 @ 11AM

    Ask food & wine editor Todd Kliman a question about Washington area cuisine and restaurant news.

  102. September 18, 2007 @ 11AM

    Ask food & wine editor Todd Kliman a question about Washington area cuisine and restaurant news.

  103. September 11, 2007 @ 11AM

    Ask food & wine editor Todd Kliman a question about Washington area cuisine and restaurant news.

  104. September 4, 2007 @ 11AM

  105. August 28, 2007 @ 11AM

  106. August 21, 2007 @ 11AM

  107. August 14, 2007 @ 11AM

  108. July 17, 2007 @ 11AM

  109. July 10, 2007

  110. July 3, 2007

  111. June 26, 2007 @ 11AM

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  113. June 12, 2007 @ 11AM

  114. June 5, 2007 @ 11AM

  115. Tuesday, May 29

  116. Tuesday, May 22

  117. Tuesday, May 15

  118. Tuesday, May 8, 2007

  119. Tuesday, May 1, 2007

  120. Tuesday, April 24, 2007

  121. Tuesday, April 17, 2007

    Robert Wiedmaier, chef/owner of Marcel's and Brasserie Beck, guest hosts today's chat.

  122. Tuesday, April 10, 2007

    Todd Kliman is the Dining Editor of The Washingtonian and won a prestigious James Beard Award in 2005 for the country's best newspaper column.

  123. Tuesday, April 3, 2007 @ 11AM

    Todd Kliman is the Dining Editor of The Washingtonian and won a prestigious James Beard Award in 2005 for the country's best newspaper column.

  124. Tuesday, March 27, 2007 @ 11AM

  125. Tuesday, March 13, 2007 @ 11AM

  126. Tuesday, March 6, 2007 @ 11AM

  127. Tuesday, February 27, 2007 @ 11AM

  128. Tuesday, February 20, 2007 @ 11AM

  129. Tuesday, February 13, 2007 @ 11AM

  130. Tuesday, January 30, 2007 @ 11AM

  131. Tuesday, January 23, 2007 @ 11AM

    Ravi Kabob, Montmartre, Ruan Thai, and more

  132. Tuesday, January 16, 2007 @ 11AM

    Farrah Olivia, Madjet, Central, 100 Very Best Restaurants

  133. Tuesday, January 9, 2007 @ 11AM

    Myongdong , India Curry House, Muffin Man, and this year's 100 Very Best Restaurants list.

  134. December 26, 2006 @ 11AM

    Bebo Trattoria, Oya, El-Chaparral Meat Market, Woo Lae Oak, Minh's, Restaurant Week, January 2007 100 Best Restaurants issue, Pizzeria Paradiso.

  135. December 19, 2006 @ 11AM

    Viridian, Mark's Kitchen, Seasons, Domku, HR-57, the best mojitos, preview of the 2007 100 Best Restaurants issue, favorite gift cookbooks, BLT Steak, the New Deal Cafe, Michel Richard's cookbook, Maestro, pizza in Mount Pleasant, the Park Hyatt's tea cellar, Bacchus.

  136. December 12, 2006@11AM

    Sergio's, Farrah Olivia, Stoney's, Delhi Club, Bob's 88 Shabu Shabu, sandwiches in DC, Jacqueline Rodier, Red Sage, L'Auberge Chez Francois, Chez Yon Yon, Obelisk, trans-fat ban, Capitol Hill restaurants, raw oysters, Fractured Prune.

  137. December 4, 2006 @ 11AM

    Sushi Ko, Makoto, Kotobuki, Joss, Kaz Sushi Bistro, BLT Steak, Notti Bianche, Minh's, sticky buns, Mon Ami Gabi, chowder, Bebo Trattoria, Mandu, Ford's Theatre, Kinkead's, Sunday brunch.

  138. November 28, 2006 @ 11AM

    Severn Inn, Komi, Idylwood Grill, top five restaurants in Bethesda, top six restaurants in Silver Spring, Maestro, Readers' Favorite Restaurants, sticky buns, Dino, sushi.

  139. November 21, 2006 @ 11AM

    Citronelle, remembering Jacqueline Rodier, Thanksgiving buffets in Northern Virginia, favorite brunch spots, Agraria, good food with a view, DC steakhouses, takeout pies, Heritage India, Korean cuisine.

  140. November 14, 2006 @ 11AM

    Citronelle, restaurant price-gouging, Galileo, Comet Ping Pong, Ray's the Steaks, Thanksgiving plans, Romantic Restaurants, NYC vs. DC food debate.

  141. November 7, 2006 @ 11AM

    Eden Center, a new chef at Mendocino Grille, Red Sky in Laurel, outside-the-beltway restaurants, Ledo's pizza, NYC vs. DC eats, Italian food, restaurant dress codes.