
You’ve handled a number of high-profile divorces. Is there a case you’re particularly proud of?
What I’m most proud of is developing relationships with clients over the course of my career that in many cases have lasted throughout the duration of my clients’ lives and in other cases continue to this day.
One of the clients you’re close with is Sheila Johnson, right?
I developed a close relationship with Sheila in representing her during the course of her divorce. It was handled in a very understated way. She and Bob [Johnson] treated each other very well during the course of the process. When she got married to Judge [William] Newman, I gave the toast at the wedding, and it was emotional for her, it was emotional for me, and it was a very gratifying thing.
After watching so many marriages fall apart, what have you learned about relationships?
Marriage takes work. A successful marriage takes work every day. Communication is the most important factor in a successful marriage. If people are willing to communicate with one another, to subordinate their own needs in favor of their spouse’s, they are more likely to have a successful marriage. The spouse is likely to want to reciprocate. It builds on itself. There’s nothing better than a happy marriage, and a happy marriage isn’t impossible to achieve if both people are sensitive to the needs of the other and willing to work. Then what we also see is the children of those marriages tend to be happier and have happier and more successful marriages if they have good role models as parents.
Has social media led to new issues for you and your clients?
Constantly. Just today, I met with somebody whose spouse was on Facebook and posted things that are ridiculous for somebody who’s married, and particularly ridiculous for somebody who’s going to be separated. It not only exposes them to having their spouse learn about what they’re doing, but Facebook is now available to their children, so their children can see what their mother or father is up to. People are astonishingly naive when it comes to social networking and what they post. They’re willing to take chances that boggle my mind. I can’t understand what they’re thinking when they do it. It’s like wearing a billboard saying, “I’m in love with John” when you’re married to Bob. It’s nuts, but it happens everyday.
Any plans to slow down?
I’m still having too much fun. I keep thinking about it. I’ll be 64 this year. People keep asking, “Are you going to retire?,” and the answer is no.
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